Sat 12 Mar 2011
Super Loons
Posted by anaglyph under Idiots, In The News, Science, Skeptical Thinking, Space, Stupidity
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Space.com is carrying a story about how, on March 19, we are all going to be thrashed to within an inch of our lives here on little planet Earth, due to what they are calling a ‘super moon’:
Huge storms, earthquakes, volcanoes and other natural disasters can be expected to wreak havoc on Earth.
… they claim, quoting astrologer Richard Nolle, who goes on to say that… WHAT THE FUCK? Let me read that again… Yup, I wasn’t hallucinating: ‘noted astrologer Richard Nolle’. Space.com is taking an astrologer as an authority on what’s going to happen in the realms of science. That would have to be an all-time-low. Oh, wait, there is a qualifier:
It should be noted that astrology is not a real science, but merely makes connections between astronomical and mystical events.
You’re darn tootin’ that it should be ‘noted’ that it’s not a real science. If you had an ounce of grey matter, Mr Space.com editor, it should be noted instead that it’s a daft concoction of primitive magical thinking promoted by badly-educated people who don’t know their astronomical asses from their celestial elbows. So why the hell are you endorsing it on a website that’s supposedly about astronomy!? Furthermore, why are you carrying it as a scaremongering ‘we’re all gonna die!’ tabloid tract?
But do we really need to start stocking survival shelters in preparation for the supermoon?
No we don’t. You’re basing this entire story on the daft lunatic ((I use the word completely mindful of its roots.)) ravings of an astrologer you halfwits.
The question is not actually so crazy
Yes it IS. It’s entirely and utterly shit-crazy. You’re quoting an astrologer. ((You could visit Richard Nolle’s website, if you were to be so wild and crazy. It is one of the most annoying and badly designed sites I have encountered on the web in recent times.))
Natalie Wolchover, the writer of this nutty piece of handwringing has added an additional embellishment which she may or may not have received from the wisdom of astrologer Richard Nolle:
On March 19, the moon will swing around Earth more closely than it has in the past 18 years, lighting up the night sky from just 221,567 miles (356,577 kilometers) away. On top of that, it will be full.
On top of that, it will be full. And that, Natalie, makes a difference HOW? Just because it has more light shining on it doesn’t mean it’s heavier or something… ((There is the VERY faint chance that Natalie does know enough about science to understand that when the moon is full it means that the sun is directly behind the Earth, creating slight amplification in the tides due to the effect of gravity on wave dynamics, but somehow, given the fact that she can’t tell the difference between and astronomer and an astrologer, I figure that’s fairly unlikely.))
Predictably enough, some people are already puffing and waving their hands around and pointing at yesterday’s huge Japanese earthquake as ‘proof’ that this is happening. And yet the moon is nowhere near its closest point at the moment. That happens on March 19 you simplistic under-educated nitwits. At which time, I predict, NOTHING of any consequence will happen anyway, except maybe some good surf at Bondi. (If you should bother to read the entire article on Space.com, you will find that as it goes on, all the scientists – as opposed to astrologers – who are interviewed for this piece say things such as: “The moon’s gravitational pull at lunar perigee is not different enough from its pull at other times to significantly change the height of the tides and thus the likelihood of natural disasters” and “Practically speaking, you’ll never see any effect of lunar perigee. It’s somewhere between ‘It has no effect’ and ‘It’s so small you don’t see any effect.” Quite obviously, a bunch of sensible people saying ‘Don’t panic, nothing happened 18 years ago in 1993 ((March 8, as it happens. Go look it up. Earthquakes? Volcanoes? Plagues of locust? Not so much.)) when the same alignment took place, and nothing’s going to happen this time’ doesn’t make for as a good a headline as ‘We’re all going to die horribly in earthquakes and volcanic lava flows!!!’)
I have two suggestions. The first is for Space.com: sack Natalie Wolchover and find another writer who actually knows the difference between science and fairy tales.
The second suggestion is for you, Faithful Cowpokes. Be back here on March 19 for another End Times review. I’m going to bet my entire whisky collection that my predictions are better than Richard Nolle’s.
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Story found by Atlas. It really does look like I may have to get out my shelf building tools again…
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“And yet the moon is nowhere near its closest point at the moment. That happens on March 19…”
Exactly the point! If there are already huge earthquakes, IMAGINE what else will happen in the next two weeks!
Seriously, though: I would expect that the perigee would have a focusing effect, causing movements that probably were likely to happen in the next month, but were accellerated ever-so-slightly. There is, obviously, no way to tell which events were accellerated by the perigee, and which weren’t. So, as a science-minded individual, while I have a hypothesis that’s impossible to prove, I’ll rely on Occam’s Razor to just say that correlation is not equal to causation and leave it at that.
I should have made that clearer. The approach to the perigee is not that kind of linear event. It’s completely periodic. For example, the moon right now is 7 full days away from the 19th which puts it quite a way out (about 400,000 km in fact) – it comes closer on EVERY perigee (that is, every month) than it was yesterday when the earthquake happened. (As usual we can rely on Phil Plait to dish out the proper science over on Bad Astronomy.)
Personally, I think a focussing effect is unlikely. Maybe things that are very finely balanced might be pushed over the edge, but that’s about it. To suggest that the Japanese earthquake is in any way related to this ridiculous ‘supermoon’ story begs the question of why it wasn’t triggered last perigee, when the moon was much closer than it was yesterday.
Some big surf folks. That’s the best we’ll see.
Oh, by the way, a big hello and Welcome to The Cow, Dusty!
I coulda sworn we had already sorted this.
Quakes are caused by boobs. YouTube proves it.
If something bad were going to happen on March 19, we would have read about it in Ezekiel.
Yes, it’s getting closer and closer. I guess if you make enough predictions you’re eventually going to get something right…
Darn. When I saw the moon was the subject of your article, I was hoping you were going to talk about Bill O’Reilly. Seriously, you should tear him apart. Or maybe his nonsense hasn’t hit your shores much yet. You can’t explain that. (If you are still in the dark, google/youtube O’Reilly Tides)
Good article nonetheless.
I know who Bill O’Reilly is, but thankfully we are spared his inane prattling over here. Of course we have our own versions of same.
Here’s Bill O at his best.
Please tell me that you sent this to space.com.
And if you didn’t, please send it before it’s TOO LATE.
It’s already too late – the story is all over the net and the media. Idiots.
No no. Unbeliever!! Before March 19th!!!!!
At least there’s time to get pissed on green beer for St Patty’s Day, although earthquakes and hangovers probably won’t feel too good.
I’m in Sydney this week, heading back to Melbourne on the 19th. I’m trying to get more information on whether earthquakes and volcanoes are more likely to happen earlier in the day or later, so I can plan the most auspicious journey.
They must love Astrolgers down at the job centre.
“I foresee you have a job for me.”
“Err no, nothing going here.”
“Oh, let me consult my chart then.”
“I’m gonna consult security.”
The King
Haha. I like the idea of astrologers having to navigate their lives by their predictions.
‘Hmmm. Shall I nip down to Starbuck’s for a coffee? Let’s see: Mercury is in the ascendant and Venus is retrograde. OMG! That means coffee would give me indigestion! I’d better have a peppermint tea instead…’
or:
‘But officer – my birth sign is rising and Jupiter is aligned with Mars! That means figures of authority will look kindly on me. How about a warning?
‘Sorry pal – looks like you made the mistake of thinking that the sun’s shining out of Uranus. You’re nicked.’
ha ha ha
There are so many possibilities for famous last words of the Astrologer…
“The charts said to land the aircraft here!”
“The charts say Russia is ripe for invasion mine fuhrer.”
“The charts say the reactor is safe.”
“The charts say we are meant to be together.”
“The charts say I should go outside the tent.”
etc etc
The charts say I’m a King
Gee, the sound design in Rango is good.
Very good.
Have you forgotten to mention that my Queen?
The King
And the sound design in Rango is awesome!
Spacey