Fri 9 Sep 2011
Science Schmience
Posted by anaglyph under Gadgets, Hokum, ShooTag, Skeptical Thinking, WooWoo
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A well-known brand of insect repellent here in Australia used to feature the slogan ‘When you’re on a good thing, stick to it!’ Our old friends from Shoo!TAG don’t have a gadget that can claim any of the repelling power of Mortein, but they certainly understand the value of the slogan.
What I am referring to here, dear Acowlytes, is the ShooTaggers’ unflagging morally bankrupt opportunism: they’re on a good thing with people’s gullibility and willingness to part with their money indiscriminately, and they aim to stick to it.
The ShooTaggers’ latest exploit, which we’ll examine today, involves their apparently boundless capacity for revisionism. We’re all quite familiar with this gambit by now: they claim something in an effort to give their product credibility, it’s challenged, they change it. I can’t even begin to count the number of times this has happened in the last few years. ((This behaviour alone should make you deeply suspicious of them and their motives – people with legitimate products simply do not do this kind of thing.)) We saw it with their erasure of all links to William Nelson/Desiré Dubounet; we saw it with the disappearing of their boast that the Shoot!TAG was being used by the Finnish Olympic Team; we saw it with the excision of Melissa Rogers’ and Kathy Heiney’s daft ‘explanations’ of how the silly thing is meant to work; we saw it with the removal of the idiotic meanderings that comprised Shoo!TAG’s supposed ‘science’ (which were once festooned all over the site like cheap Christmas decorations).
And now it comes as no surprise to see that they have once again altered their website to remove material that made them look a little bit too much like the peddlers of pseudoscience that they are.
You will remember that, a little way back, Shoo!TAG was all up on how wonderful their ‘science’ was, with the loud trumpeting on their home page of the ‘Texas A&M University Field Test’ that supposedly showed that ‘Shoo!TAG is 75% effective against mosquitoes!’ Well, it seems that particular science isn’t really worthy of being featured any longer on the Shoo!TAG site which has recently been scrubbed clean of all references to the clueless experiment.
The link to the video on their ‘How Does it Work’ page that once led to the August 2010 test now returns a 404 error, and gone also is the promise of the supposed test results from a study conducted by the ‘Japanese Ministry of Health’ (like that’s a surprise). Likewise, the announcement of the Texas A&M University Test has disappeared from the Shoo!TAG press release archive where it once featured prominently. Everything for which I took them to task in my post Shoo Us the Science! Is completely gone. ((Have no fear though, erased from the web it may have been, but not from the TCA Shoo!TAG museum!))
One is prompted to wonder why they have gone to all this trouble if they really believed (as they previously claimed) that these tests were so definitive. One reason that springs readily to mind is that they were forced to redact all the relevant material, perhaps by Texas A&M University, or maybe by the scientist who was involved in those tests, Dr Rainer Fink (maybe Dr Fink realised that he was looking like a prize idiot being by being associated with these people).
As a substitute for the Texas A&M endorsement, however, we now have another curious document:
Read the result from our latest field test conducted by Texas State University. Texas State Study Executive Summary Letter June 2011
Note very well that the statement above claims in explicit terms that the test was conducted by Texas State University. I wonder how TSU feels about that? I guess we’ll find out, because I’ve asked them that very question. ((I fully expect the TSU ‘endorsement’ to be altered rapidly in the next few days.))
The link takes us to a another piece of sleight-of-hand by the ShooTaggers. It is nothing more than a letter about a supposed test. I am hugely intrigued here. Could it possibly be that the reason there is a letter but no data from the vaunted trial is that Shoo!TAG is going to attempt to get the experiment peer reviewed? ((It’s likely to be a sobering experience for them, if it is indeed the case…)) Am I completely mad being optimistic that they’ve actually learned something about science? Well we will have to wait and see, I guess. In the meantime, they just can’t resist being as unscientific as always by using the letter (which appears on a Texas State University letterhead… kind of…) ((It looks very much to me like they’ve badly copied the letterhead and then typed what they wanted under it… You be the judge!)) to make even MORE outrageous claims than they did with their last ‘experiment’. Now the Shoo!TAG is showing an 80% reduction in mosquito bites! What’s more, even the deactivated Shoo!TAGs used as controls have a repelling effect under specific circumstances!!! Imagine that!
There also appears to be a transferred effect when the populations were mixed. Males that wore inactive shoo!TAGs received a mean number of bites only 2 times that of active shoo!TAG wearers when in mixed tents. The analysis does indicate mosquitoes preferentially chose wearers with inactive shoo!TAGs. Specifically, wearers of inactive shoo!TAGs had approximately 2-3 times fewer bites when associated with wearers of active shoo!TAGs.
I’d just can’t wait to hear what kind of explanation they’re going to give for that particular effect.
Without actually getting a breakdown of the protocol and the data of this test it’s pretty hard to tell what went on here, but the general sense of the letter conveys the same kind of addle-brained methodology as was evident in the Texas A&M trial. And there is no doubt that it’s presented on the site under the usual Shoo!TAG modus operandi of making it appear that science has endorsed the efficacy of the product without that actually being the case.
It seems to me, Faithful Cowpokes, that Shoo!TAG could more accurately align themselves with another of Mortein’s contributions to popular culture: Louie the Fly. Just like him, Shoo!TAG comes ‘straight from rubbish tip to you!’
[Addendum: Some of the material referred to above still exists on another associated Shoo!TAG site genuineshootag.com. The video seems to have vanished completely off the web, but the Rainer Fink letter of endorsement is still available, as is a pdf of Shoo!TAG CEO Carter McCreary’s amusingly inept breakdown of the trial. It seems they haven’t quite gotten around to sweeping everything under the carpet.]
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OMG I can’t wait to read the reply from Texas State University. This is more exciting than waiting for my new Lee Childs book.
And, yes, I have noticed that their Texas scientist is a fink.
How about the terrible cut & paste on the letter?!
And… need I say… Go Rev. Never give up, never surrender.
I want Wombat and Kookaburra to come back, how I miss those guys…
The King
ps Still Here Lord!!!!!
Internet wayback machine is good for looking at cached versions of sites (of which it has a few impressions of the site, earliest appears to be Feb 2009, then nothing to Feb 2011… perhaps when you started questioning them?)
Go go go!
Also, as an afterthought, can they really call it ‘green’ if they are making it out of plastic that is intended to be thrown away every 4 months or so?
http://www.shootag.com/the-lab/
‘You must be one of those people who enjoy the “science†behind the product. ‘
Oh lawdy. They even know the “science” requires quotations around it….
The title for this post, by the way, came from ShooTag themselves – for some reason they have an unlinked page with that title:
http://www.shootag.com/science-schmience/
It has nothing on it, but the title itself does give an interesting perspective on how they view science.
The page is linked to something now, and has the text:
Science Schmience
‘Yes, its always fun to know the “behind-the-scenes-how-it-works-part†and that is why we have created the lab! Here, you will get a chance to get the basic overview, take the deep dive and even see some video of shoo!TAG® products being tested.’
And then nothing. Because apparently, there is no science!
While we’re on the subject, anyone got some snake oil laying around? I could really use some oiling of my snakes.
The page is just a placeholder and is similar to other ShooTag ‘Lab’ placeholders. What I was saying about it being ‘unlinked’ is that it’s not linked from anywhere else in the ShooTag domain (in other words, they put it there for some reason, but it is vestigial). You can get there from my link because I have made you one!
I like how, on their blog, none of their flea prevention and avoidance suggestions come from themselves, but rather they talk about chemical flea methods and good practices. Are they really trying to sell this thing?
Their blog is just cribbed from elsewhere. It’s just a mechanism to try and keep their customer base ‘engaged’.
Yeah, I see that now. Well, on the bright side, they can now truthfully say they have something resembling science on their website….
“1. Particpants were segregated by tag activation and placed in into tents”
What is this “double blind” you speak of, and why are you being so skeptical?
My bet on how this worked? The shootaggers squirted mosquito spray into the tent marked “activated”.
You know, I really don’t think they’re that devious. At least not on the experimental side of things. I think they’re merely clueless. They have no idea of what a double blind experiment is, how to undertake one or, probably most crucially, any desire to find out. They go into these ‘experiments’ with the object of proving what they already know to be true, not to discover whether or not their science is solid.
I imagine they sit their in their ShooTag camp, reading what I’m saying, with NO CLUE of what I’m talking about. Their brains probably think like this:
•The trivector is undiscovered genius!
•Our use of it on the ShooTag is awesome!
•Everyone says it works!
•Except some people who keep whining about ‘science’
•So we’ll do some science to PROVE it works.
Rather than the way a real scientist does it:
•I have an hypothesis (based on preceding good science)
•I will design an experiment to test that hypothesis, by formulating a protocol to attempt to disprove it.
•If my experimental data doesn’t disprove the hypothesis, I’m well on the way to showing that it is sound, and worthy of further science.
The evidence is clear in the Texas A&M trials, and also in this current letter from Texas State University (if it is indeed even genuine) that they enter their investigations fully intending to have their beliefs validated. If the lax protocols and silly procedures of the Texas A&M University test are anything to go by, you can see how vague and floppy the ‘data’ is, for a start, and how easily it could be misinterpreted. With a small sample size (6 people) and a lot of subjective reporting, getting back a result you wanted is a foregone conclusion.
The description of the TSU test, which is boasting a larger sample size (we’ll believe that when we see a proper experimental description) smacks of the same kind of experimental buffoonery. For a start, you don’t test the validity of insect repellents outside in tents! This kind of science is not new – people test insecticides ALL THE TIME, so there must be many sound available protocols they could crib from. But it suits the ShooTaggers to introduce all kinds of uncontrollable situations into the tests, because it increases the error margins enough to get ambiguous results.
Plus, most crucially, a test with a bunch of people in tents makes for great PR. People swatting mosquitoes, laughs, drawing of coloured circles around the bites, lots of exposure of the product. This is what the experiments are all about: product placement and advertising. They don’t care if it’s real science, as long as it looks sciency on their website.
Unfortunately, a lot of people will fall for that kind of thing. I’m just hoping Texas State University is smart enough to know the difference, and insist on their name being removed from it.
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1510603
“This class is VERY difficult. We did not use a book, he refused to provide copies of the powerpoints and tests relied solely on the notes. The average grade in our class was around a 50. He doesn’t provide a study guide, either. And the final exam is cumulative. I wouldn’t recommend this class if you have another alternative.”
This “Ken Mix” sounds like a pretty poor professor all round, to be honest.
Does he earn his wage?
http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/government-employee-salaries/texas-state-university/kenneth-mix/867348/
Unrelatedly, in addition to ticks, fleas, and mosquitoes, the Shoo!Tag now protects you from chiggers.
I can’t really see the shootag staff giving this one a double-blind test :P
http://www.amazon.com/00-223-Mosquito-Chigger-Barrier-Repellant/dp/B0029UAQ9O/ref=pd_bxgy_petsupplies_text_c
We can make the assumption that Ken Mix is a poor scientist from the get go, merely because he is involved with this risible process. His wage looks rather feeble to me – not that I have much of an idea of what Assistant Profs generally earn. The fact that the ShooTaggers have had to drop their science spokesman from a Doctor to an Assistant Professor speaks volumes, wouldn’t you say? It certainly adds weight to my suggestion that Rainer Fink is not keen to be associated with ShooTag any longer.
I actually don’t know what a chigger is, I’ll go look it up.
Right – a kind of mite. Couldn’t be worse than a tick though?
Ah, I’d been told by locals that they are an evil parasite that burrows into your skin and causes unbearable itching as they move around under it – but it looks like they’re just harvest mites, and they just dissolve holes in you with stomach acid, rather than burrow.
I feel a little less guilty for wishing a double-blind test of these on the Sh!T’s then :)
Not sure if you are serious about the second part or not, but double blinding is a technique used in science to attempt to eliminate as many variables as possible by repeating the experiment multiple times, usually on different subjects, in controlled environments.
See here for more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_experiment#Double-blind_trials
Just thought about what I typed there after I posted it, and realized that if read literally it could mean something else. What I mean is, the shootag people could have given a random (activated or not activated) one to a person, sent them into a tent full of mosquitos of a controlled number, counted bites after a controlled duration, and then determined after whether the cards were activated or not (I figure a simple marking on the active ones, and then placing them all in identical envelopes or something, which wouldn’t be opened until after in tent. Or not at all. They probably ‘work’ through the envelope. double blind solved).
In this way, each subject would be an experiment. That is what I was getting at.
Dewi was being sarcastic with the double blinding comment. Science is his thing.
Double blinding is a little more rigorous than you suggest. It means that neither the subjects NOR the experimenters know the controls from the active medium until after the data is collated.
In other words, if we were to apply it to ShooTag, while the experiment is being conducted, no-one is aware of whether or not they are handling a control or an active ShooTag.
But let’s be very clear here: double blinding is just ONE of the problems with the experiments as outlined. As I pointed out in the examination of the Texas A&M trial, the experimental protocol was rubbish at every stage. For example, double blinding this experiment would be useless if you continued to release subjective amounts of mosquitoes into tents outside. There is no way of controlling this procedure. As was stated a number of times in the Texas A&M results, mosquitoes ‘escaped’ from the tents when people went in and out! And they estimated that number! And then they estimated other figures to make up for the estimations!! This kind of protocol would get you a big fat F even in a high school science class!
I hope the Shoo!TAG™ folks have the resources and the fortitude to investigate diligently the hitherto unsuspected flaws in their deactivation technology.
Yes, it’s a bit of an oversight, right? If they’re deactivating the damn things by erasing the magnetic strip, then the active effects might be in the plastic itself! And then where does that leave the magic of the trivector encoding?
But I suppose that what happens is that, due to some hitherto undiscovered NEW scientific principle, the trivector imprints the plastic molecules with its wonderful power. If they work on this hard enough, they might be able to get rid of the pesky magnetic encoding process altogether and just sell plastic cards. That would be a first.
Oh wait, NO IT WOULDN’T. That’s what the Anibio Tic Clip does!
Idiots.
Let’s just do the old-fashioned thing and just start selling wooden nickels as the cure-all for everything.
Also, they are completely green! Print whatever we want in food coloring on them, then when they wear out, simply fling them out your window and let them decompose! And not only that, wooden nickels are dirt cheap. We could be making a fortune!