Mon 8 Aug 2005
Same As It Ever Was
Posted by anaglyph under Web Politics
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I just visited the blog of rock singer and Renaissance Man Mr David Byrne (because I think he is an interesting person, and has insightful opinions) and had a bit of a revelation. Mr Byrne has a blog, is an interesting person and has insightful opinions, but he just doesn’t get the concept of blogging. Oh, I know, the headline says “Don’t Call It a Blog” but I’m sorry Mr Byrne, calling it a ‘Journal’ is just attempting to weasel out of being lumped in with the hoi polloi – it’s a blog by any other name.
Except for one significant difference. At first glance it looks like pretty much any other blog you might stumble across in your explorations of the blogosphere. But hey, what’s this? He doesn’t allow readers to comment on his posts!
Let’s think about that for a moment. The nature of a blog is at least slightly interactive. You post a thought, people read it, and if they feel like it, they leave a pearl of wisdom or a few pellets of scat. They leave their alias, which is a link that can be followed back to their own blog so that you, in turn, can read and comment upon their pontifications. They mark their territory in the blogosphere. These are the basic rules that any blogger knows. Disallowing any comment on your pronouncements is the blogging equivalent of hanging out a sign that says “No Riff Raff”.
I was reading down Mr Byrne’s latest post when I noticed the absence of a Comments field and I had the eerie and almost corporeal feeling of a door being slammed in my face. I had to stop and think about why I felt so put out. I didn’t even intend to post a comment.
What I believe has happened is that Mr Byrne has failed to understand the concept of community that blogging, by tacit agreement, encompasses. There’re no rules, of course, you can do anything you want on the net, but there are understandings in the cyberworld, just as in RL you understand that it’s bad manners to fart in an elevator or park in the disabled bay at the supermarket.
When I realised that Mr Byrne did not care about my, or any other reader’s, opinion, I completely lost interest in what he had to say. If I want that kind of experience, I have many books to choose from.
By contrast, Mr David Brin, a person who is at least as erudite and well known as Mr Byrne, has a blog where he makes commentary on all manner of worthy subjects, and cultivates a thriving culture of opinion, humour and insight. Mr Brin also participates in the comments from time to time, making his blog not only entertaining and informative, but a kind of living dialogue. I believe that this is what blogging is about.
Mr Byrne may indeed have many profound and wonderful things to say, but in my opinion he suffers from an excess of hubris. We are no longer living in the world where a Creative Person speaks, and the Great Unwashed throw flowers in obeisence. A Lofty ‘Journal’ he may have, but he lives in poverty without a blog.
UPDATE: Neil Gaiman’s doing it too. C’mon chaps, you look like pretentious prats. Tsk.
You know, I must say one thing. I am amazed everytime I read your blog at the incredible linguistic effort you put into it. Your vocabularly leaves me in awe.
My hat is off to you, sir.
Thanks for the link to the David Brin site. It looks very interesting, but I fear only for those with a lot of time on their hands.
I only ever have time for blogs that go with my coffee in the mornings, not with an all-you-can-eat hotel buffet breakfast. Yours is always a quick and very good espresso – I look forward to it! (I hope this fits in with your concept of what blogging is about…)
Ah, the Espresso of Blogs! Yes, that’s perfectly acceptable. I would hate to be the Egg McMuffin of Blogs…
And Joe, thanks for dropping by. I hope that as well as enjoying the big words you find The Cow entertaining and thought-provoking (and maybe funny?) as well…
If its a journal, then its not a blog, i guess.
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i once had the opportunity to see david byrne give a talk here in san francisco for a film about cuban percussionists (can’t remember the title) back in the mid-1990’s. i had never seen him speak in public before and he gave a 15 minute talk before the start of the film, stepping up shyly to the podium. i remember being surprised at how quiet and shy he seemed. he spoke mostly with his head down the entire time, not making too much eye contact with the audience and quite honestly, mumbling incoherently, so much so that we couldn’t understand a word he was saying, much else hear about what the film was going to be about. then he just sort of waved and walked off. i was a bit miffed about that, honestly, because i was interested at least in how he was involved in the film we were about to watch. once the film started i could tell my boredom was to increase tenfold– it was black-and-white, documentary-style, and had very little narrative. was mostly just clips of old film footage that was spliced together with a bit of text interspersed and some narrative. quite boring, actually, and i admit, i’m not really big on cuban or latin musics so it’s probably mostly my own fault that i was not at all interested. so we left early, walking out of the theater slightly irked about having given up an entire sunday afternoon to attend.
i’m a bit of a loudmouth when it comes to dissapointment- and took to complaining to my mate all the way down the escalator to the lobby of the theater, which was empty since everyone was still inside watching the film, so i felt free enough to voice my opinion strongly and openly about both byrne and the film and remark about my disappointment without holding back. i think i remember saying something like “what was the deal with byrne? he just stood there mumbling like some sort of idiot!” blah blah blah, until i got down to the lobby and realized that a very downtrodden-looking david byrne was standing only a few feet away from me, obviously within earshot of my remarks. i won’t forget the look on his face– he looked a bit like a small boy who had just gotten punched in the stomach.
i think he has definitely had some brilliant moments, though. especially his work with eno on “my life in the bush of ghosts” (one of my alltime favorite recordings).
I also loved MLITBOG, a beautiful and clever work. I find David Byrne quite an interesting character too, if a little abstruse at times. It’s just that in my opinion blogging is about something different to throwing your pearls before swine which is what I feel like Mr Byrne is doing. Sure, you can call it a journal. But go read it – it looks exactly like a blog to me, except that he has spurned any reader commentary. It’s just rude. Plus it smacks of such a 1980’s ‘I’m a serious artist’ attitude. It really got under my skin (as if you couldn’t tell…). David Byrne needs to go read some of the great blogs out there and see what he’s missing out on.
I just want to note that you’ve said nothing about the content of Mr. Byrne’s journal. Your comments are but blather. Bloggy blaggy blather. I have a feeling that it is for reasons like these that there is no option of commentary on his journal. Imagine this: he has written in a journal and has been kind enough to share it with the world. I am left with the sense that you are a tad ungrateful, and have not much to say really.
Perhaps Mr. Byrne wants to share some of his thoughts with the world, as thoughts in-themselves, for those of us who are curious to read more of his personal writings. I came to the internetworks tonight to find Mr. Byrne’s thoughts, and, while I imagine there are many interesting interpretative comments that could flow from an open discussion of his words, he’s too big a name to experiment with the degree of administration it would require to filter the bull-junk from what would inevitably follow from an open blog. He’s a shy fellow, you know. You should try to be a bit more understanding about the overwhelming life of an international pop icon and genius of our time.
“The nature of a blog is at least slightly interactive”. How about, the nature of the blog is at least slightly personal, and thus personally configurable. If you want your posts to appear without comments, you can do that! And things!
“Mr Byrne has failed to understand the concept of community that blogging, by tacit agreement, encompasses.” Tacit agreement? As far as I know, you’re talking about someone who has made a career of altering the standard expectation of popular mediums. It appears you have failed to understand the concept of David Byrne.
“Mr Byrne may indeed have many profound and wonderful things to say, but in my opinion he suffers from an excess of hubris. We are no longer living in the world where a Creative Person speaks, and the Great Unwashed throw flowers in obeisence. A Lofty ‘Journal’ he may have, but he lives in poverty without a blog.”
Hubris is implicit in the god-like act of creation. Here’s the man himself:
“Maybe a healthy proportion of self-worth is also needed in order to have the hubris to create. Couldn’t that same valuable self-worth easily and equally become and engender maniacal control, freakish behavior, and bullying?”
So let him be a bully, kind of like you are trying to be.
It’s too bad that we live in a world where a truly Creative Person speaks, and the masses, rather than listen, get themselves drunk on the fact that they have the technology to pretend to have something to say.
p.s. you misspelled obeisance.
Adamus: Thank you for dropping by.
Never have I had my point so conclusively made. My blog allows for discourse. You have voiced your opinion. Something Mr Byrne did not allow me to do at his place.
I did not talk about the content of David Byrne’s blog – that was not the purpose of my post. For the record, I happen to think that Byrne is an exceptionally talented man with some extraordinary artistic accomplishments. Some crap too, but it goes, perforce, with the territory.
You may consider my comments blather, but I note you have not contributed productively to the point that I was making and instead have indulged in a stream of hagiographic pique.
>>Imagine this: he has written in a journal and has been kind enough to share it with the world.
“Kind enough to share it with the world”? Oh please. He is indulging in an egotistic expression like the rest of us.
>>I am left with the sense that you are a tad ungrateful, and have not much to say really.
With the succinct difference that I allow others to put that that opinion forward. My blog is not, for the most part, about ‘having something to say’. I never pretended, anywhere, that it was. It is a record of my own thoughts and observations put forward for others to indulge in if they choose. Signs of the times.
>>he’s too big a name to experiment with the degree of administration it would require to filter the bull-junk from what would inevitably follow from an open blog.
Oh spare me. Much bigger names than him actively engage with their audience in blogs and otherwise.
>>He’s a shy fellow, you know. You should try to be a bit more understanding about the overwhelming life of an international pop icon and genius of our time.
Er… exactly why is that, that I should be more understanding? I’m not criticizing David Byrne’s talent. I’m criticizing his method of engaging in a form of popular culture. I stand by those criticisms. I think he has misunderstood the landscape of blogging, and therefore some of its profound value.
>>How about, the nature of the blog is at least slightly personal, and thus personally configurable. If you want your posts to appear without comments, you can do that! And things!
Of course you can. Huzzah! Like you can use a camera to take a photograph of a painting. But why would you want to? Doing so would not add any value to the art of photography nor the art of painting (except perhaps in some abstruse Post Modernist way). Did you read my post at all? Of course you can do anything you want with a blog, but my point is that Mr Byrne has missed the point.
>>Tacit agreement? As far as I know, you’re talking about someone who has made a career of altering the standard expectation of popular mediums. It appears you have failed to understand the concept of David Byrne.
So, let me get this straight – you’re saying that David Byrne is going against the grain on purpose to make his blog look like, oh, old fashioned ‘writing a diary’. Astonishing. I would never have thought of doing something so breathtakingly mundane.
>>Hubris is implicit in the god-like act of creation. Here’s the man himself:
You may note that I used the words ‘an excess of hubris’. I am entirely aware that hubris is a necessary part of the creative act.
>>“Maybe a healthy proportion of self-worth is also needed in order to have the hubris to create. Couldn’t that same valuable self-worth easily and equally become and engender maniacal control, freakish behavior, and bullying?â€
Er… he is just saying what I said. Do you understand him at all? Translation: He is proposing that you need hubris to create but that an excess of hubris might result in ‘maniacal control, freakish behaviour and bullying’. ie things that are not to be desired. Ergo – excess of hubris not good.
>>So let him be a bully, kind of like you are trying to be.
I don’t think he wants to be a bully, and neither do I. I am voicing an opinion. What’s more, I’m allowing other people to publicly disagree with my opinion. In fact, I encourage it by entering into discourse. I truly don’t see how that amounts to bullying.
>>It’s too bad that we live in a world where a truly Creative Person speaks, and the masses, rather than listen, get themselves drunk on the fact that they have the technology to pretend to have something to say.
You see, that’s where you and I part ways my friend. I like the fact that ‘the masses’ have a voice. I detest the deification of pop stars. David Byrne is an interesting artist and has made, and continues to make, worthwhile and challenging artistic statements. But he is not a god. He also misses the point of blogging.
>>p.s. you misspelled obeisance.
So I did. How clever of you to notice.