Sun 10 Oct 2010
Insane Clown Pussies
Posted by anaglyph under Idiots, In The News, Insane People, Music, Religion, Science, Skeptical Thinking, WooWoo
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The Guardian reports today the shock horror story of the decade – if you’re a dedicated ‘horrorcore’ hip-hop fan, anyway.
It turns out that the Insane Clown Posse – those rapper doyens of the crass, the violent and the sexist – known for such moving lyrics as:
I stab people, 4, 5 people everyday
I tried to see a shrink to stop that shit but it ain’t no FUCKing way
…and:
I grabbed her by her neck
And I bounced her off the walls
She said it was an accident and then apologized
But I still took my elbow and blackened both her eyes
…and:
If I was a king all bitches would blow me
Big bag piles of jewels for my homies
We would go to war and take everybody’s land
No clothes allowed for female citizens
…have, all this time, been Evangelical Christians.
My mind flip-flops between being flabbergasted and entirely unsurprised. Flabbergasted because I find it hard to believe that people who call themselves Christians can write these kinds of things, and then unsurprised because I guess I can. And it’s not that the Juggalo ringleaders have suddenly had a Road to Damascus moment, either – they say that they’ve been Christians all along.
Apparently, their music is all just an act, cunningly crafted to sneak up on all those unsuspecting fans of theirs and deliver the message of God under the cover of necrophilia, dismemberment, rape and murder. Not since the Spanish Inquisition has morality been so deeply confused. ((My observation here is that if this is true, then they are treating the people that buy their music with the utmost disrespect – firstly, they are trading on being something that they are not in order to disseminate some dubious moral agenda, and secondly they think their audience is stupid. Which may be true, but doesn’t that just smack of cynical exploitation?!))
This is how Violent J (Joseph Bruce), one of the two figureheads of ICP, puts it:
To get attention, you have to speak their language. You have to interest them, gain their trust, talk to them and show you’re one of them. You’re a person from the street and speak of your experiences. Then at the end you can tell them God has helped me out like this and it might transfer over instead of just come straight out and just speak straight out of religion.
This was the same Violent J who was arrested on an aggravated battery charge after allegedly striking an audience member thirty times with his microphone at a concert in New Mexico. Apparently you need to physically show ‘them’ that you’re ‘one of them’ as well. That’s a slippery slope for which I wouldn’t want to attempt to mount a moral defense.
Recently, as part of their overt ‘coming out’ the Clowns released this video of their song Miracles, in which they apparently find everything miraculous, including UFOs, fog, and the Pyramids: ((How magnets, the Pyramids, UFOs and ghosts fall into the category of Miracles Wrought By God is kinda hard to fathom…))
It appears that they use the term miraculous here in a religious sense, rather than as hyperbole. In other words, they are rapping about all these ‘miracles’ as literal Works of God. The clue is the part of the lyric that says:
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
Yep, it’s those evil scientists at it again. As one science blogger has put it, the video
…is not only dumb, but enthusiastically dumb, endorsing a ferocious breed of ignorance that can only be described as militant. The entire song is practically a tribute to not knowing things.
Indeed, in 1998 Spin magazine said that ICP were offensive “not for their obscenity, but for their stupidity” and after reading the Guardian interview I linked above, I am inclined to agree (there are some real clangers, but I’ll leave them for you to discover). In a manner that is the modus operandi of all the most blinkered fundamentalists, the ICP eschews any level of intellectuality or reason or knowledge in favour of simplistic, slack-jawed religious naiveté. What’s more, they seem baffled by the torrents of criticism they have received from the science community over their silly song. Violent J:
I figured most people would say, ‘Wow, I didn’t know Insane Clown Posse could be deep like that.’ But instead it’s, ‘ICP said a giraffe is a miracle. Ha ha ha! What a bunch of idiots.’
Yeah, see, the problem is, Violent J, that your observations aren’t so much deep as breathtakingly banal…
Plant a little seed and nature grows
Niagara falls and the pyramids
Everything you believed in as kids
Fucking rainbows after it rains
there’s enough miracles here to blow your brains
… and, to be frank, it’s terrible music to boot – the rap in this song is possibly the worst I’ve ever heard. Take away the trademark in-your-face offensiveness and Insane Clown Posse just have nothing at all to offer.
As it stands, for all their ghetto posturing and murderous carnival grotesquerie, I say that the Insane Clown Posse are nothing more than Insipid Clown Pussies. It takes guts to look the universe squarely in the face and endure all the uncomfortable consequences of the realization of the measure of your insignificance. ((Conversely, it takes no guts at all to beat up a woman, and it follows that to write a ‘song’ about doing so is the work of a very tiny soul indeed. Don’t spin me your ‘whatever it takes to get the Lord’s message through’ bullshit, you hypocrites.)) Religion, especially the brains-on-the-floor flavour of religion offered by Evangelical Christianity, is the ultimate avoidance of facing up to reality. It says, in no uncertain terms, that if you trust everything to God, all will be hunky dory. It’s the easiest of cop-outs for a difficult challenge. In this respect, ((…and possibly others, it has to be said – pardon my cynicism.)) then, it is less confronting to discover that the members of the Insane Clown Posse are Christians, than it would have been to have heard they were philosophers, atheists or scientists.
The cognitive dissonance is deeply disturbing.
Lord Jesus say to all o’ yous, “GO!
A billion disciples amass!
Then beat down the devil like he was yo’ ‘ho!
And bust the Lord’s cap in his ass!”
Aha! NOW WE KNOW POLANSKI’S TRUE IDENTITY!
Fucking magnets work by the action of their poles. Sometimes they’re pullin’ in and sometimes they’re pullin’ away.
Sometimes they’re just pullin’.
Jesus loves me this I know
Shut your trap you fucking ‘ho
Your ass to me it does belong
’cause you are weak and I am strong.
Humpty Dumpty was a disgrace
So he followed Jesus and came to this place.
Humpty had wondered why Jesus appeared
And why in the FUCK he’d led Humpty HERE.
Now you bitches pay attention ’cause I’m gonna set you straight
All this murderin’ and whoring ain’t got nought t’ do with hate
See, that beardy motherfucka lookin’ down from up above
Sent his homie – yo that’s Jesus – to teach all o’ you TOUGH LOVE!
I would trust scientists a whole heckuva lot more if they’d quit pissin’ off the Posse, ya know?
I have a hard time talking to scientists. It’s like they operate on a different frequency or something.
No fleas on them.
I just got around to watching the video.
We sang that song in church last Sunday. It sounds much more intellectual in Latin.
No clothes allowed for the female parishioners.
Nothin’ hotter than a bunch o’ naked old church ladies.
Insane Cow Posse
[img]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_57Ka0pJpiyE/TLFArG-J7PI/AAAAAAAAArc/T3ev2ZX28cs/icp.jpg[/img]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Atlas 2 Dope and Violent JP!
Hahahahaha. I didn’t realise you guys were Christians.
Well, what I find most worrying about this is that the Guardian considers “News” what everyone else has been laughing about for only a few days shy of eight years. As Wikipedia says: “On November 5, 2002, Insane Clown Posse released their eighth studio album, The Wraith: Shangri-La, where it is revealed that the hidden message of their music was always to follow God and make it to Heaven.” This was big news, way back then. Now, it’s ancient history.
Fuckin’ newspapers. How do they work?
Oh yeah, I forgot: they don’t, any more.
The ‘news’ is that the ICP have made the message overt in their music. Even this is not actually that recent – the video for Miracles has been doing the internet show & tell rounds for some months.
And I suspect the question is not so much ‘Fuckin’ newspapers, how do they work?’ as Fuckin’ PR departments, how do they work? Now that the Clowns are spreading God’s word, anything goes. Cred? Who needs it? A front page in The Guardian is some kind of PR coup for a band like this, even if Violent J and Shaggy 2 do show the shortcomings of their intellectual prowess (and that’s not actually a liability when it comes to selling religion, apparently…)
One thing is clear – they’re not going to pull it off based on their musical talent.
I’ve always thought God’s word was spread by clowns.
Nothing to see here people, move along…
The King
Good point King Willy.
I wonder:
After rapping the line, “And I love my mom for giving me this time on this planet,” how many ‘muthafucka’s will it take to REestablish status as a musical badass?
I’m gonna apply for a research grant.
I think the accepted measurement is:
One ‘I love my mom’ = 2.5 billion ‘muthafuckas’
So what are they going to do about Juggalo Championshit Wrestling?
Malach, who actually cares?
What a buncha fuckwits I’d like to run down
Take that from my car you pussyass clown
You think that for Jesus souls you gonna capcha?
Your retard fanbase gonna vanish like the rapcha!
dicks.