Fri 11 Sep 2009
V is for Vainglory
Posted by anaglyph under Australiana, Bizarre, Daft Advertising, Food & Drink, Hmmm..., Nostalgia, Stupidity
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Because we’ve ventured back onto the topic of Bonox, it occurred to me that many of you across the various ponds may be interested in the most recent news from Bonox’s creators, Kraft, who I’m sure you will know better for their much more famous product Vegemite (we’ve discussed it before here).
Vegemite has been around in Australia since 1922, and has remained virtually unchanged. A year or so back, though, Kraft did a survey on their website to find out what Australians ‘wanted’ in their Vegemite, quite obviously with an eye to boosting the sales of their atramentous spread. This notion that you can somehow ‘improve’ an already perfectly acceptable product, is, it has to be said, a quintessentially American one. Australians don’t tend to think like that.[tippy title=”†”]Well, Australians who don’t subscribe to nutty ever-accelerating economic models, anyway.[/tippy] So it will come as no surprise to you at all to know that Vegemite is now 100% American-owned. Like most of the rest of Australia. But I digress. Vegemite occupies that most privileged of positions on the supermarket shelf, alongside strawberry jam and peanut butter; it is what it is, and trying to make it into something else ‘more successful’ is really only the kind of fluffy dream that fills the restless sleep of advertising people.[tippy title=”‡”]Yeah, I know what you’re going to say – peanut butter comes in crunchy and smooth, but I really don’t want to contemplate a crunchy Vegemite.[/tippy]
Anyhoo, Kraft got all kinds of suggestions about how Vegemite could be improved – there was a website you could visit and put in your threepence-worth about how you’d like to see it combined with muesli or salmon paste or whatnot. There were a lot of rather nauseating suggestions and I speculate that Kraft neglected to understand that they were not really seeing a proper representation of the Vegemite-buying public, but rather a whole bunch of people who evidently thought it had some kind of defect (although there were some like me who visited the site and left comments to the effect that they should simply leave it alone). As it turns out this led, eventually, to the announcement of a wonderful new product which has been sitting on supermarket shelves for the past few months sporting the moniker ‘Name Me’. Yes, that’s right, in a transparently sad grab for publicity, the people who run Kraft’s advertising campaign have attempted to rope in the hoardes of loyal Happy Little Vegemites to come up with a name for the new stuff.
This is not the first time that Kraft have tried to spin Vegemite off into something else. You’d have thought they’d have learnt their lesson about fiddling with an iconic cultural lynchpin after their merger of Vegemite and cheese in the 1990s failed to gain traction in the world of toast-topping comestibles.
But no. Now they’re doing pretty much the same thing again – this time it’s Vegemite and cream cheese. And, my prediction is that it will follow the same ignominious trajectory of the 1990s effort, particularly in light of what I’m now about to tell you.
You will have noticed that I haven’t linked to anything Vegemite so far in this post. And it’s not going to happen. Because, when I was doing a bit of legwork for y’all to read about the grand Vegemite saga, I came across this incredible disclaimer on the Vegemite website:
All other use, copying or reproduction of any part of this Site is prohibited (save to the extent permitted by law). Without limiting the foregoing, no part of this Site may be reproduced on any other internet site, and you are not authorised to redistribute or sell the material or reverse engineer, disassemble, or otherwise convert it to any other form that people can use. You are also prohibited from linking the Site to another website in any way whatsoever (emphasis mine).
Putting it succinctly, Kraft expressly forbids you to link to the ‘new Vegemite’ site!
There are few things quite so sad as business people who just completely fail to grok the zeitgeist. I can’t say whether it’s Kraft or their advertising agency who has prompted the instigation of Vegemite v.2 and this harebrained web campaign, but I know where I’d put my money. Mr Kraft, if you’re reading this, sack those goobers. NO-ONE in this early part of the 21st century makes a website that you are not allowed to link to and protects it with a legal rider! That’s the internet equivalent of building your retail outlet in Upper Siberia and then posting security guards with tasers at the front door just in case anyone does find you.
I can only surmise that Kraft is so nervous about their new product that they really don’t want to attract attention to it. Either that or they have arrived at the quite unbalanced conviction that someone might want to steal the idea. Really, I can’t think of one single sensible explanation for why you’d want to prevent people from wording up your spread. Or spreading your word.
I haven’t tried the new ‘Vegemite’ and I had no real intention of doing so. I like Vegemite just as it is, and I miss it if I can’t get it (like when I visit… well… anywhere…). But as you know I will pull out all the stops in the service of science, so I make a pledge to you Acowlytes – this weekend I will throw off my cultural preconceptions and try the new ‘Name Me’. This will allow me to post an appropriate food review to coincide with Kraft’s Grand Reveal of the new name on September 21.
I’d link you to where you can find out all about that, but hey – my hands are tied.
ADDENDUM: It’s been pointed out that the legal rider on the Vegemite site is probably intended to stop users in the Vegemite ‘community’ from posting links from inside the forums to other places. If this indeed the case, for a legal document it’s sloppily ambiguous (viz: ‘in any way whatsoever’), still dopey and in all likelihood just as unenforceable. And it’s madness that you are compelled to agree (via an irksome and irritatingly flakey Flash crawler) to a set of legal requirements before you can even read the ‘No Name’ site – something pretty much unparalleled on any commercial site I’ve ever visited, and again vividly demonstrating Kraft’s lack of web acumen.
ADDENDUM #2: The Flash User Agreement has now vanished from the Vegemite site. Obviously its ridiculous nature has been pointed out to someone. The site still retains all the conditions in its Terms of Use though, so nothing has really changed, other than that you’re not forced to agree to them before you can view anything.
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†Well, Australians who don’t subscribe to nutty ever-accelerating economic models, anyway.
‡Yeah, I know what you’re going to say – peanut butter comes in crunchy and smooth, but I really don’t want to contemplate a crunchy Vegemite.
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Crunchy vegemite? Now that’s just plain wrong
I’d suggest they name it Spurge, only I need the latest plug in of something to get the site to work. Drats.
I came across something that might interest you the other day; among the other drinks in the cabinet at my campus lolly shop, the Samedi energy drink caught my eye.
I googled it and found this site:
http://www.samedisays.com/drink.php?l=1
It informs the reader,
“When drinking this potent energy drink, do so with respect. It’s an intense 500mls of energy with the personal approval of Baron Samedi.”
Vegemite? Vegemite Not.
I came across something that might interest you the other day
Why wouldn’t he be interested today as well?
Vegemite CC, I’d rather have a few cc’s of something far more interesting.
The King
I have seen the Kraft site and it has a scary in-excess-of-one-hundred recipes with vegemite in them – including Vegemite Asian Prawn Skewers, Stir Fried Pork & Broccoli and Spaghetti Bolognese.
Vegemite has ONE purpose only – to spread on bread (toasted or otherwise) or crackers. That is it. Carefully vetted additions may include (from time to time) butter, Nuttelex, lettuce, walnuts, cheese (cream or cheddar) &c but are most definitely added al fresco, not in jar-o.
I see the Vegemite website has a banner heading “Some Things Never Change”. Would that it were so.
Kraft is trying to convert Vegimite, to get us stupid Americans to buy it.
Unfortunately we went through our Australia fad back in the 80’s . . . not sure where were at now . . . Urban Ghetto I think.
If only I could remember – I saw a product on a shelf the other day advertised as “NEW IMPROVED ORIGINAL FLAVOUR!”
Huh? They’ve got to be having a laugh, surely.
Nurse Myra: It sure is. But not as wrong as some of the suggestions on the No Name site. Which I wish I could link to.
Purple Dragon: Too late anyway – they’ve decided on a name, to be revealed on September 21. As far as Baron Samedi’s energy drink goes, well, I notice they don’t mention anywhere what it tastes like. Chicken broth and mouldy earth, I’m guessing.
Atlas: Vegemite Not. That could win you the competition. But I’m guessing they’ll go for some daft name like Bing or Zune – I suspect Kraft uses the same advertising company as Microsoft, judging by this whole affair.
King Willy: Vegemite CC? I’ll copy you on that when the release day comes.
Cissy Strutt: They need to change the slogan to ‘Some Things Never Change Unless We think We Can Make a Buck Out Of It’ Not as high with the catchy quotient, but a whole lot more honest.
Malach: I think that we can all agree that converting Americans to Vegemite is a lost cause. It’s only Kraft that still thinks it’s possible.
MI: It is an acquired taste, I guess. but as I mentioned a while back it’s hard for me to tell since I acquired it many years ago when I was a kid. Just as most Australians do. You have to remember – in some countries people grow up drinking yak’s milk and liking it.
JR: I shall be telling you what I think of Vegemite’s ‘New Improved Original Flavour’ in due course – stay tuned.
It might become Vegemite Style Vegemite.
I am American. I remember the horror that was “New Coke” when everyone here went apeshit because there wasn’t a damned thing wrong with Coke to start with, but “New Coke” tasted like Pepsi with a twist of turd. Mmmmm. Mmmmm. Giant FAIL. Coke returned in its original form. (Well, not with the cocaine they put in it when it was a new product on account of that being illegal and all.)
I lived in England and was told I had to try Stilton Cheese. It tasted like thousand-year-old pickled panty jam. No, I’ve never tasted that but I knew instinctively that was the only thing that could bring this flavor they so loved.
Then the ex-hub ensured me that the Marmite he loved on his toast was a treat amongst treats. I took a bite of the Marmite-slathered toast. It made me crave Stilton Cheese.
Then, an Australian at school clued me in that Marmite was Shite, but Vegemite was Right(eous). I tried it on toast as well. It is not for the American tongue. Not even one that grew up eating squirrel. But, you folks clearly have been loving that stuff the way the Brits love Marmite for decades on end. Why fuck with a sure sell?
Well at least I gave it a try…and as I said…I did like how it flavored my stews and sauces…as I experimented with it there. I was never disappointed. I am just not a “straight up” Vegemite kinda gal. I am sure it was Vegemite blasphemy, but hey…I TRIED!
I would buy it as a base…but I still don’t think it would sell here as most would never be that adventurous.
But the yanks have Promite don’t they, the one laden with sugar for american tongues. Or is that something they market here as “american” and yet no american actually eats it?
The King
King Willy, as an American with fairly open taste buds and living in a area with many ‘gourmet’ grocery stores, I can say that I have never heard of Promite. If I had to guess what it was before reading about it here today, I would have said it was either a.) a medication to remove mites from a dog’s ear or b.) a typo for “Promise”, an American brand of margerine.
Although I have to admit that adding sugar to something to appeal to Americans sounds plausible.
And most Yankees that have ever heard of Vegemite learned about it from “Men at Work” in their song “Land Down Under” in the early 80’s. We could have learned about it 10 years earlier had Olivia Newton John could have found a rhyme for it.
Pil: Hahahahahaha! That is classic. I’ll never eat fish paste again.
Buzzardbilly: Well, it will probably not surprise you that I quite like Stilton too.
The thing I’d caution you (and all Americans) about though is that you shouldn’t really ‘slather’ Vegemite (or Marmite). It really is too salty and overpowering. That would be like drinking a cup of soy sauce. Vegemite is best spread very thinly on hot buttered toast.
MI: I’m not really that convinced of its pedigree as a base anyway. That seems like something that people do when they don’t really like it – ie, hide it in other food. You may as well just use salt.
King Willy: Promite was invented in Australia in the 1950s by Masterfoods, a previously Australian company also now swallowed up by US interests. I think you formed the impression that it is a Yankee product all on yer lonesome.
Argyle: And yes – Promite is the most unappealing name since Clamato. Or Bonox. Both of which we’ve had previous cause to discuss on The Cow.
As for ONJ trying to find a rhyme for Vegemite – I think we have to rank it alongside ‘orange’ and ‘silver’ in the rhyming stakes…
As for ONJ trying to find a rhyme for Vegemite…
All plugged up
but can’t sit tight?
Try some prunes
With Vegemite!
And if you
Are much more daring
Try Vegemite
With Pickled Herring!
Speaking of which – you haven’t been very forthcoming with a taste test… You are allowed to say you don’t like it (although as you no doubt realise, that would severely restrict your chances of getting a visa).
Statement of the bleeding obvious ahead:
Marketing people are arsehats.
Vegemite is fine the way it is. If people don’t like it… fuck ’em.
Reminds me of the tossers who try to make ales more like lagers in a lame attempt to appeal to the masses.
PS: Marmite is shit. I was born in the UK, but raised in Oz. Guess my love of Vegemite reveals my true allegiance.
PPS: Weird non linking policy. Maybe some of the marketing arsehats see this for what it is: A major fuck up.